My posts on the debate between Hoste and Trifkovic at Alt Right

Hoste :

"As for Christians who go on about Islam's bloody history, “why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?" The religion that gave us the rack, the Inquisitions, burning at the stake, witch hunts and the Crusades has little room to talk. A body count comparing the two faiths wouldn't even be close."

Constantine:

These kinds of statements are more typical of people on the Left or Neoconservatives. Anyone who wishes to defend the West and preserve our Culture and Traditions would never make such statements. The Inquisition was desperately necessary (I find it funny that Mr. Hoste who seems not to be a fan of Jews is making that statement). All one has to do is read the history of Spain and see that his points are silly at best. As for 'Body Counts', the Inquisition had a lower body count than most people think. Over hundreds of years there were about 3,000 people executed by the State (not the Church). That's about the same body count that Muhammadans pulled off on one day on 9-11. As for the Crusades, they were defensive wars after the Muhammadan horde conquered half of the Christian world and pushed into France. Constantinople was threatened, Spain was mostly lost, Arab raiders were harassing Christians and there was a need to strike back. Mr. Hoste really needs to brush up on History of the West if he wishes to discuss these things.

Islam is foreign to the West and it is an alien body within it. Only by rejection of Islam will the West survive. We should leave them alone and insist that they stay out of our nations.


Later I went on to say:

I quite agree with you. I have observed that people feel the need to 'choose sides' between Jews and Muslims. It is a false dichotomy. The Muhammadans have been the enemy outside they gates and the Jews many times have been the enemy inside the gates. Mr. Hoste should read about the Jews in Spain and why there was a need for an Inquisition and how they conducted themselves before, during and after the Muhammadan conquest. When he decides to be a serious commentator about the History of the West, he should start to read a bit deeper into the History of Spain, Jews, Conversos, and the indigenous population.

The problem with people like Hoste and to a lesser extent Trifkovic is that they wish to ignore the problem of the people whom they see as 'allies'. Leftists and people whom object to Jewish power (I would hate to use 'anti-Semite' as it is over-used) have a rosy vision of Islam, even to the point of fantasy. The Ottoman Empire was a nightmare, as was Islamic Spain. Only Jews, Muslims and self hating Westerners see Islamic Spain or the Ottoman Empire as a good thing. Sorry, I can't go there. Give me Queen Isabella and Constantinople over the Caliphate and Suleiman the Magnificent.

On the other side you have neocons and Christian Zionists who absolutely cannot see the cancer that is Jewish power in the West. The police state that is being erected, the insane foreign policy that seeks to further Israeli interests, not American. The secularization of the nation. The forced multiculturalism and anti-White stance of the government is not due to Muhammadans. Jews have pushed for these things and the WASP elite sold out long ago.

It is time that Westerners stop buying into the false choice of being a fan of Islam or a fan of the Jews. Know that we are Westerners. We are culturally and hopefully someday again religiously Christian. Our traditions are as precious to us as others traditions are to them. Our traditions are Christian, not 'Judeo-Christian'. Once we return to knowing who we are and have a vision of where we must go rather than just obsessing on pop culture and idiotic sports matches, we might actually save the West. Until then we are done.